Saturday, April 30, 2011
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
Chris Rongey Twitter War part 2
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@Jeffrey_Gross I don't think you know what civility is. You contacted me with the sole purpose of starting an argument.
AP The Associated Press
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Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey (Steve Phillips use to rave at how great he was at evaluating talent with his eyes)
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey I would love to spend a night at Comiskey. How can i get these tickets? I'll bring a true white sox fan with me
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey how was I the dick? I just sent you a tweet with data on Rios' wRC+ and you called me stupid? So who started what now?
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@gameofinches That's the thing, though. There are too many variables that cannot be accounted for. Not everything is predictable.
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey Let's throw out all science while we're at it because it's imperfect
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey Baseball is a stochastic sport. We can predict the outcome w/o knowing exactly how we get there.Thats where these stats come in
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey Again, throwing away a better fit line because it's not s perfect fit line is silly. Do you play darts blindfolded?
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@gameofinches On second though, you're more than welcome to a Sox game. But, your friend is a d***. He can buy his own.
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey @gameofinches I wasn't being an intolerable jackass. I merely pointed out Rios' wRC+ by month
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey Black Scholes valuations are also theoretical and experimental but Fortune 500 Co's don't blindly guess stock valuations either
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@Jeffrey_Gross BTW, you ever want to start a conversation with me, try not to be an intolerable jackass. Take a cue from @gameofinches
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@Jeffrey_Gross Just how empirical is it, though? Just because it uses advanced formulas doesn't mean it's correct.
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@Jeffrey_Gross I just don't know that it can explain/predict everything, but some people are married to the idea that it does.
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@gameofinches Saving it? Don't know about that. Provided a different angle at which to analyze? Absolutely.
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey you choose eyes over empirical data. That's pretty silly. Can you hold on a second, Joe Morgan is on the other line
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey Saving from horrible, old, players that stuck around 5 years too long. #kotsay #erstad #alomar
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey The fact that FieldFX>UZR, and FieldFX>your eyes, does not mean Your Eyes>UZR
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey Oh we know that hes unbearable. Never met an argument didnt try to win. But you need to acknowledge SABER for saving baseball
Jeffrey_Gross Jeffrey Gross
@ChrisRongey I'm moving this argument to my personal twitter. No need to burden 570 others with your silliness
KDthunderup Kevin Durant
Aye ppl let's see how fast my big brother @LifeOfTonyD35 can get 10000 followers let's go!!!!
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@gameofinches Your friend is sort of unbearable. I never said Rios was still developing. I said he shouldn't have lost all ability by now.
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@ChrisRongey FieldFX may be better than UZR, but that doesnt mean UZR
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@THTFantasy Fieldfx will be real, measurable data. Problem is, I don't know if they're going to make it public. Only teams may have access
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@ChrisRongey Can we run a regression on your eyes please? Let's solve the mystery of whether the Rangers eyes are better than UZR
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@THTFantasy I'm telling you, man, I don't know that they are. Honestly. I don't believe they're nearly as accurate as some people think
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@gameofinches @ChrisRongey He's more likely to break out in acne cause he's apparently still developing
THTFantasy THTFantasy
Im not married to them but theyre better base than your eyes @ChrisRongey You have to stop being married to those numbers, man.
THTFantasy THTFantasy
Thanks for not presuming I live in my mother's basement. @ChrisRongey Your @THTFantasy friend needs to move out of the sticks
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey Seriously, i have alex rios on my fantasy team when is he gonna break out?
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@THTFantasy You have to stop being married to those numbers, man. Current defensive stats are highly flawed.
THTFantasy THTFantasy
Your eyes are far from the better fit line. Theres no Eye/150 for rsn @ChrisRongey I dont think one is infinitely more useful than the other
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@ChrisRongey Just so we're clear, i'm not preaching gospel, only a radically better fit line.
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey I live in the city my @THTFantasy friend does not. Any day works
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@THTFantasy They hardly tell the full story of a player's defensive ability
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@ChrisRongey Any other baseless claims that can be refuted by empirical data this morning?
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@ChrisRongey current def. metrics arent gospel, but they're a helluvah lot better than your eyes
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@THTFantasy Like I said, current defensive advanced metrics aren't gospel. Talk to me when FieldFX data starts to come out.
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey i probably never missed a cubs game till college, and now we have DVR :) #jamienavarro #jamesbaldwin#mikecaruso !!!
THTFantasy THTFantasy
@ChrisRongey Of course. Baseball is clearly a game played on spreadsheets, with computers running situational outcomes 1000x
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@gameofinches Have you ever tried watching games or do you just read fangraphs?
THTFantasy THTFantasy
But he plays a premium pos! @ChrisRongey Jeter got that contract because he's Jeter and he has value to NY. Nobody else was giving him that
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@THTFantasy No, but you're on the phone with whoever it is. I think that's cute.
gameofinches Game Of Inches
@ChrisRongey Have you ever tried to learn baseball of do you just rely on your eyes? http://bit.ly/eAgKrB
ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@gameofinches @THTFantasy At 30, a guy is still likely to be able to play the pos. at a high level. Of course that changes with more time.
THTFantasy THTFantasy
No, only small sample defensive data is garbage @ChrisRongeyDefensive data is garbage. Don't bother. I'm younger than you think, brother.