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Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Chris Rongey Twitter War part 2

Chris Rongey
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@ I don't think you know what civility is. You contacted me with the sole purpose of starting an argument.
Jeffrey Gross
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@ I tried to be civil, but you started the name calling.
The Associated Press
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Chris Rongey
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@ Goodnight
Chris Rongey
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@ Just sent you a message
Jeffrey Gross
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@ You tell me. You're the one raving about your eyes
Chris Rongey
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@ Why would I want to be Steve Phillips?
Jeffrey Gross
@ (Steve Phillips use to rave at how great he was at evaluating talent with his eyes)
Game Of Inches
@ I would love to spend a night at Comiskey. How can i get these tickets? I'll bring a true white sox fan with me
Jeffrey Gross
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@ And you're not steve phillips, as hard as you try
Jeffrey Gross
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@ how was I the dick? I just sent you a tweet with data on Rios' wRC+ and you called me stupid? So who started what now?
Chris Rongey
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@ You're not Galileo
Chris Rongey
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@ That's the thing, though. There are too many variables that cannot be accounted for. Not everything is predictable.
Jeffrey Gross
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@ Let's throw out all science while we're at it because it's imperfect
Game Of Inches
@ Baseball is a stochastic sport. We can predict the outcome w/o knowing exactly how we get there.Thats where these stats come in
Jeffrey Gross
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@ Gallileo was also a dick. You know, cause he was right.
Jeffrey Gross
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@ Again, throwing away a better fit line because it's not s perfect fit line is silly. Do you play darts blindfolded?
Chris Rongey
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@ On second though, you're more than welcome to a Sox game. But, your friend is a d***. He can buy his own.
Jeffrey Gross
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@ @ I wasn't being an intolerable jackass. I merely pointed out Rios' wRC+ by month
Jeffrey Gross
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@ Black Scholes valuations are also theoretical and experimental but Fortune 500 Co's don't blindly guess stock valuations either
Chris Rongey
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@ BTW, you ever want to start a conversation with me, try not to be an intolerable jackass. Take a cue from @
Chris Rongey
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@ Just how empirical is it, though? Just because it uses advanced formulas doesn't mean it's correct.
Chris Rongey
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@ I just don't know that it can explain/predict everything, but some people are married to the idea that it does.
Chris Rongey
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@ Saving it? Don't know about that. Provided a different angle at which to analyze? Absolutely.
Jeffrey Gross
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@ you choose eyes over empirical data. That's pretty silly. Can you hold on a second, Joe Morgan is on the other line
Game Of Inches
@ Saving from horrible, old, players that stuck around 5 years too long.
Chris Rongey
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@ Don't believe I'm the one being silly.
Jeffrey Gross
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@ The fact that FieldFX>UZR, and FieldFX>your eyes, does not mean Your Eyes>UZR
Game Of Inches
@ Oh we know that hes unbearable. Never met an argument didnt try to win. But you need to acknowledge SABER for saving baseball
Jeffrey Gross
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@ I'm moving this argument to my personal twitter. No need to burden 570 others with your silliness
Chris Rongey
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@ Fieldfx is far superior to everything else.
Kevin Durant
Aye ppl let's see how fast my big brother @ can get 10000 followers let's go!!!!
Chris Rongey
@ Your friend is sort of unbearable. I never said Rios was still developing. I said he shouldn't have lost all ability by now.
THTFantasy
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@ FieldFX may be better than UZR, but that doesnt mean UZR
Chris Rongey
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@ Fieldfx will be real, measurable data. Problem is, I don't know if they're going to make it public. Only teams may have access
THTFantasy
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@ Can we run a regression on your eyes please? Let's solve the mystery of whether the Rangers eyes are better than UZR
Nick Friedell
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Chris Rongey
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@ I'm telling you, man, I don't know that they are. Honestly. I don't believe they're nearly as accurate as some people think
THTFantasy
@ @ He's more likely to break out in acne cause he's apparently still developing
Game Of Inches
@ Break out as in acne, cause he's still developing
Chris Rongey
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@ Define "break out"
THTFantasy
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Im not married to them but theyre better base than your eyes @ You have to stop being married to those numbers, man.
Chris Rongey
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@ WHAT? You don't???
THTFantasy
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Thanks for not presuming I live in my mother's basement. @ Your @ friend needs to move out of the sticks
Game Of Inches
@ Seriously, i have alex rios on my fantasy team when is he gonna break out?
Chris Rongey
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@ You have to stop being married to those numbers, man. Current defensive stats are highly flawed.
THTFantasy
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Your eyes are far from the better fit line. Theres no Eye/150 for rsn @ I dont think one is infinitely more useful than the other
Chris Rongey
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@ Your @ friend needs to move out of the sticks
Chris Rongey
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@ I don't think one is infinitely more useful than the other
THTFantasy
@ Just so we're clear, i'm not preaching gospel, only a radically better fit line.
THTFantasy
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@ They still tell a better story than your eyes.
Game Of Inches
@ I live in the city my @ friend does not. Any day works
Chris Rongey
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@ They hardly tell the full story of a player's defensive ability
THTFantasy
@ Any other baseless claims that can be refuted by empirical data this morning?
THTFantasy
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@ current def. metrics arent gospel, but they're a helluvah lot better than your eyes
Chris Rongey
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@ Maybe. Depends on when you want to go.
Chris Rongey
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@ Like I said, current defensive advanced metrics aren't gospel. Talk to me when FieldFX data starts to come out.
Game Of Inches
@ Can you hook us up with white sox tickets? Pleassssseeee?
Game Of Inches
@ i probably never missed a cubs game till college, and now we have DVR :) !!!
THTFantasy
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@ Of course. Baseball is clearly a game played on spreadsheets, with computers running situational outcomes 1000x
THTFantasy
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@ here's a top google result, from ours truly:
Chris Rongey
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Chris Rongey
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@ Have you ever tried watching games or do you just read fangraphs?
THTFantasy
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But he plays a premium pos! @ Jeter got that contract because he's Jeter and he has value to NY. Nobody else was giving him that
Chris Rongey
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@ No, but you're on the phone with whoever it is. I think that's cute.
Game Of Inches
@ Have you ever tried to learn baseball of do you just rely on your eyes?
Chris Rongey
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@ @ At 30, a guy is still likely to be able to play the pos. at a high level. Of course that changes with more time.
Chris Rongey
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@ Well that's equally cool.
THTFantasy
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No, only small sample defensive data is garbage @Defensive data is garbage. Don't bother. I'm younger than you think, brother.

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