OK, so now that I've had time digest this Cutler deal and talked to some people, I think I may have been too harsh in my last post. Essentially everyone that I've talked to LOVES this deal. However, I think there are obviously two sides to this deal. I think if you're absolutely in love with it, you're a bit too naive and optimistic. But if you absolutely hate it, then you're way too cynical and pessimistic. The thing I think to notice is that there is no clear cut winner and loser, at least not yet. The Bears are not automatically a Superbowl team, or even a playoff team with Cutler but they didn't necessarily destroy their future and organization either. So I'm here to post some pros and cons to this trade from the Bears perspective and let people make up their own mind. I still contend that it was a bad deal, but to say the Bears gained nothing is absurd.
PRO- This Deal Was Good For The Bears:
1) The organization, FINALLY got some stability in the QB position. There have only been two good QBs in the history of the Bears franchise: Sid Luckman and Jim Mcmahon. And let's be honest here, if McMahan was on any other team with any other franchise he wouldn't be considered good. Last year, Cutler threw for over 4,000 yards, had over 25 passing TDs, and was a Pro Bowler. The last QB Pro Bowler for the Bears was McMahon, the last guy to throw 25+ TDs was Eric Kramer in the mid-90s, and the Bears have never had a QB go over 4,000 yards. To say the Bears have had a bad history of QBs is to say the Cubs are just going through a little World Series dry spell.
2) Cutler is a guy you can build your franchise around. Cutler is only 26 years old and already has had success. The opportunity get a good player in one of the hardest positions not only in football but in all of sports is a rarity that when it comes along, you have to take it
3) The Bears suck at drafting anyway. The Bears do not know how to evaluate offensive players anyway and when Ron Turner is in charge of all your offense, it seems futile to try to build an offense in house. Yes Cutler cost two draft picks, but what would the Bears have done with those picks anyway? People have told me that draft picks don't matter anyway and you're still taking a risk on an unknown. In fact, Bright One texted me today "Fuck draft picks". If draft picks are really unimportant, then the Bears just got Cutler for nothing
CONS: This Deal Was Bad For The Bears
1) Cutler is not the savior. Let's be honest here, Cutler had success in Denver because of the offense around him. He had a great wide out in Brandon Marshall, his his offensive line in Denver was far superior to the one he'll have in Chicago, the only reason he passed over 4,000 yards was because he was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts. The team around him in Chicago, at least in the short term, will show fans that a big name QB on his own can't win games. Current Bears WR and shit and so is the O-line. Joe Montana would have a hard time running this team, what makes Cutler so special?
2)If the Bears would just waste their draft picks anyway, then what's the point of building around Cutler? You see, the purpose of getting a young "franchise QB" is so that you can help your organization go forward. You still need to get WR and linemen and suck around your QB (The Bears already have a RB available). If this organization is too stupid to not take advantage of their draft picks, then how will they be smart enough to out talent around Cutler to make him a success? (My personal opinion is that everyone from Lovie Smith to the McCaskeys themselves don't know shit about how to successfully run an organization anyway...)
3) The Bears could have used those draft picks anyway to be good. The best way to win games and bee good is by having good D and O-lines. Jay Cutler doesn't help with that, draft picks (of free agents) do.
Do I think the Bears finally have a stable, good, Pro Bowl worthy QB that can play at least 32 games in row, something a Bears QB hasn't done in a long time? Yep. Do I think it's smart to draft Kyle Orton over Jay Cutler in next years fantasy football draft? Yep.
Jay Cutler Trade, Part II
Posted by
Adam Kaplan
on Thursday, April 2, 2009
Labels:
Chicago Bears,
Jay Cutler,
Jerry Angelo
1 comments:
good points
The bears had 12 draft picks in the 2008 draft. Can you name me one who had any impact outside forte?
The cowboys gave 2 first round picks for Roy Williams. That was beyond stupid.
Passing for 20TD is a skill. It's not a product of your environment, it's a skill. You can draft orton next year in fantasy, but he could play for the 2003 Rams and wouldnt pass for 20 TD. Cutler throws one of the best balls in the league, and it wont be because of him that we lose, and i can accept that.
The reason he had so many passing attempts, is because he was always behind, but also it's because he can produce with all those attempts. Think of it this way. LeBron can take a shit load of shots, because he can shoot a high percentage. If tyrus thomas tool the same number of shots, he would get shot in the head.
If you or anyone wants to convince me that cutler isnt worth it, i want to know specifically what he does as a QB that you dont like or think someone else does better. I doubt anyone can find too many flaws in his game, hence you want him on your team. Some people have questioned his desire to win, due to off the field perceptions, but i have never seen him quite on the field. I have seen vince young quit, i have seen mike vick quit, and i even saw brett favre quit at the end of last year. Unless the bears were gonna draft peyton manning with one of those draft picks, i dont see the problem.
I understand the value of draft picks in the NFL. The NFL draft is the most important of any of the top 4 sports. In the NBA, i never understood why people were hesitant to trade draft picks for superstars. What's the logic? I'm gonna pass on a superstar, for the opportunity to draft some guy who might not suck one day. Kinda like the Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler trade. They traded a 20-10 guy for some high school kid who's ceiling is equivalent to the guy you traded. And cutler is only 25, so it's not like were acquiring musin muhammed again.
This is really one of my happiest days and one i will remember for a really long time. Kinda like the day the bulls traded eddy curry. boy was i pissed that day
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