Showing posts with label Skip Bayless. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Skip Bayless. Show all posts
Brett Favre vs. Chad Pennington
This Sunday the Dolphins will play the New York Jets. And as ESPN's First Take loves to, they asked this question to Skip Bayless and um, nobody cares who else Skip faced: "This year, who is the better QB, Favre or Pennington?" The opponent said Pennington, I think, and Skip went on a two minute pompous rant about about how Favre is better. His logic actually isn't that bad. Pennington is in a West Coast offense which includes a lot of dink and dumps which pad Pennington's stats whereas Brett Favre plays the more traditional role as a QB and essentially "earns" his stats because he's forced to actually look at defensive schemes and make plays.
But let's take a closer look at stats. I'm going to discount passer rating for this argument because if Pennington truely is better because of lots of dink and dumps, his passer rating should be inflated. I think the best stat to look at is Yards Per Attempt. If Brett Favre is truly better because he doesn't dink and dump, then he should have a better YPA than Pennington.
Pennington: 7.74 YPA, 6th in the NFL
Farve: 6.72 YPA, 22nd in the NFL
Even if run after the catches help Chad's YPA, there's no reason Favre's YPA should be THAT low. Advantage: Pennington
Another important stat one COULD look at is completion percentage. Now here, Pennington should have a high comp %. (In fact, I was watching SportsCenter one day and they showed one game where Chad P. had 11 straight completions yet the vast majority of them WERE dink and dumps and it would have been pathetic if he DIDN'T have 11 straight completions on the type of passes he threw). But if Favre has a comp % even CLOSE to Pennington, then Farve his better because his completions are more skilled and harder to do
Pennington: 67.0% t-2nd
Favre: 67.0% t-2nd
Advantage: Favre
Let's look over some other stats:
TD/INT ratio:
Pennignton: 17 TD/ 7 INT, 2.43
Favre: 21 TD/ 19 INT, 1.11
Yes Favre should have more INTs and TDs than Chad but there's absolutely no excuse, whatsoever, for that low of a TD/INT ratio
Advantage: Pennington
Football Outsider stats:
Pennington: 5th in DVOA, 7th in DYAR
Favre: 23rd in DVOA, 19th in DYAR
Advantage: Pennington (and it's not even close)
Chad Pennington is BY FAR the better quarterback this year. Brett Favre gives up WAY too many interceptions and has superior less value than Chad Pennington. And considering Favre's top two receivers are far better than Pennington's (look up Ted Ginn Jr, Devone Bess, Jericho Cotchery, and Lav Coles's stats on footballoutsiders.com) it's really pathetic how bad Favre is this year.
Kudos, Chad P. for having a great 2008 season and I'm sorry Favre stole your pro bowl selection
SIDENOTE: Chad Pennington is 2nd in the NFL in passer rating and Favre is 18th behind QBs like Shaun Hill, Trent Edwards, Eli Manning, and Jason Campbell. Now passer rating is clearly a flawed statistic but if you're really high in passer rating then your a really good QB. If you're mediocre in passer rating, then you're just a mediocre QB. So don't look how many spots there are between Pennington and Favre so know that Pennington is at the top so he's good and Favre is towards the middle so he's just mediocre.
SIDENOTE 2: This is NOT a statement for who's career is better because Brett Favre CLEARLY wins that one, this is JUST for the 2008/2009 season
But let's take a closer look at stats. I'm going to discount passer rating for this argument because if Pennington truely is better because of lots of dink and dumps, his passer rating should be inflated. I think the best stat to look at is Yards Per Attempt. If Brett Favre is truly better because he doesn't dink and dump, then he should have a better YPA than Pennington.
Pennington: 7.74 YPA, 6th in the NFL
Farve: 6.72 YPA, 22nd in the NFL
Even if run after the catches help Chad's YPA, there's no reason Favre's YPA should be THAT low. Advantage: Pennington
Another important stat one COULD look at is completion percentage. Now here, Pennington should have a high comp %. (In fact, I was watching SportsCenter one day and they showed one game where Chad P. had 11 straight completions yet the vast majority of them WERE dink and dumps and it would have been pathetic if he DIDN'T have 11 straight completions on the type of passes he threw). But if Favre has a comp % even CLOSE to Pennington, then Farve his better because his completions are more skilled and harder to do
Pennington: 67.0% t-2nd
Favre: 67.0% t-2nd
Advantage: Favre
Let's look over some other stats:
TD/INT ratio:
Pennignton: 17 TD/ 7 INT, 2.43
Favre: 21 TD/ 19 INT, 1.11
Yes Favre should have more INTs and TDs than Chad but there's absolutely no excuse, whatsoever, for that low of a TD/INT ratio
Advantage: Pennington
Football Outsider stats:
Pennington: 5th in DVOA, 7th in DYAR
Favre: 23rd in DVOA, 19th in DYAR
Advantage: Pennington (and it's not even close)
Chad Pennington is BY FAR the better quarterback this year. Brett Favre gives up WAY too many interceptions and has superior less value than Chad Pennington. And considering Favre's top two receivers are far better than Pennington's (look up Ted Ginn Jr, Devone Bess, Jericho Cotchery, and Lav Coles's stats on footballoutsiders.com) it's really pathetic how bad Favre is this year.
Kudos, Chad P. for having a great 2008 season and I'm sorry Favre stole your pro bowl selection
SIDENOTE: Chad Pennington is 2nd in the NFL in passer rating and Favre is 18th behind QBs like Shaun Hill, Trent Edwards, Eli Manning, and Jason Campbell. Now passer rating is clearly a flawed statistic but if you're really high in passer rating then your a really good QB. If you're mediocre in passer rating, then you're just a mediocre QB. So don't look how many spots there are between Pennington and Favre so know that Pennington is at the top so he's good and Favre is towards the middle so he's just mediocre.
SIDENOTE 2: This is NOT a statement for who's career is better because Brett Favre CLEARLY wins that one, this is JUST for the 2008/2009 season
Kerry Collins for MVP!!!
Right now the Tennessee Titans hold the best record in football. They have a stingy defense (by law, anyone talking about a good NFL defense is required to call it "stingy"), a great running attack, and great offensive and defensive lines. But what they do not have, is a great quarterback. Hell, they barely have a halfway decent one.
Several ESPN analysts including Tom Jackson, Skip Bayless, and Woody Paige have clamored for Kerry Collins to be the NFL MVP. Are they joking? Collins is 24rd in completion percentage, 21th in Passing Yards, 25th in yards per attempt, t-21th in TD, 22 in TD%, 20st in passer rating, 11th in DVOA (a football sabermetrics stat), 14th in DYAR (another football sabermetrics stats). According to footballoutsides.com "The simple version: DYAR means a quarterback with more total value. DVOA means a quarterback with more value per play."
There's only 32 NFL teams and for the most part Kerry Collins in part of the bottom third in major passing stats
To his credit he doesn't turn over the ball. He is t-2nd in INTs with 6 and has 11 TDs. Chad Pennington also 6 INTs but has 12 TDs. Jason Campbell also had 11 TDs and 6 INTs. Jeff Garcia, while granted have started less games that Collins only has three INTs and a better TD/INT ratio. Matt Ryan has one more INT (7) yet 3 more TDs (14). Eli Manning, Kyle Orton, and Tyler Thigpen have only two more INTs than Collins (8) and have way more TDs than Collins (20, 25, 14 respectively). All have better passer ratings.
Kerry Collins is on a team that has the second best scoring defense, the 4th overall defense in terms of yards. He's on a team that's third best in running the ball, has the fifth best RB in Chris Johnson in terms of running the ball, and the best RB in terms of TDs in LenDale White.
Kerry Collins has only three times thrown over 200 yards. Two of those opponents were against the Bears and the Jaguars. He has never thrown over 290 yards nevertheless 300. Against the Detroit Lions he didn't get a TD throw and less than 200 yards. AGAINST DETROIT! Only three times has he thrown more TDs than INTs; twice has he thrown the same amount of TDs as INTs; once he threw more INTs than TDs.
People who deserve the NFL MVP more than Kerry Collins: Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Phillip Rivers, Clinton Portis, Adrian Peterson, Tennesse Defense, Brandon Jacobs, Anquan Boldin, Matt Forte, LenDale White, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Jeff Fisher, Calvin Johnson, Matt Forte, Thomas Jones, Graham Harrell, Donavan McNabb, Jay Cutler, Chris Johnson, Marion Barber, D'Angello Williams, Titans Offensive line, Landanian Tomlinson, Peyton Manning, Albert Haynesworth, Chad Pennington, Kyle Orton, Colt McCoy, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Albert Pujols, Jason Campbell, Skip Bayless, Brett Farve, Jeff Garcia, Matt Cassel, Bill Belichick's hoodie, Joe Flacco, Gus Ferrotte, Carlos Quentin, Matt Cassel, Chase Daniel, Me, and Tom Jackson. All are better MVP candidates than Kerry Collins.
