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Running Back Rankings

This is Part Three of Game of Inches' Four Part set. You can read our Part Two WR rankings here and our Part One TE Rankings here.

RULES
1) This is not a fantasy ranking, this is an actual skill set ranking.
2) We said that if we had to draft players to play one game tomorrow, who would we choose. Now past and future performance was taken into account as well, but we felt this was the best way to accurately rank skill set of current players.
3) We only ranked 32 players- one from each team. The group used our best judgment to determine which was the teams best player to rank.
4) This is assuming all players are 100% healthy
5) Because we are ranking based off of talent alone, we assumed every running back on our list was playing behind the best run blocking offensive line

QUICK NOTES
- Because we only chose one player from each team, there are some notable guys left off of this list. I was lobbying to rank Jonathan Stewart but he's clearly the inferior and #2 back in Carolina so I was voted down. Some other notable players left off of this list were LaDanian Tomlinson, Thomas Jones, Marion Barber, and Reggie Bush (although I might have left Bush's name off of this list just out of principle)
- There are really two different types of backs- the guys that can get 125 yards on 25 carries 16 games a season and the guys who can get 15 carries for 90 yards but also pair that with 5 catches for 80 yards. It was very hard (at least for me) to determine which skill set was better. However, I ultimately took the pass catcher over the non-pass catcher every time and I gave great weight to the backs ability to catch and not fumble.
- I was very upset at Cubsfan's rankings on Forte as he was by far the lowest on him. Considering all three of us are Bears fan and see most (if not all) of the Bears games, its obvious Forte's problems are offensive line related and not skill related.
- To me, the top of this list was very good. Hell, number 21 on my list was BenJarvis Green-Ellis who I praised to be a Pro Bowler. Although after my Law Firm ranking, I had no idea what to do. The only ranking I was 100% on was Beanie Wells because he sucks donkey balls.
- The 'Bright' One was by far the highest on Darren McFadden and he explains why here
- Both TBO and Cubsfan ranked Arian Foster #2. I personally didn't rank him that high not out of spite or because I don't like him, but because as good as he is, I think there are better

And now on with the show

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Fantasy Football Advice: Every Down Running Backs?

I was recently asked the question what running backs I think will be “every down backs” for this season? That was a hard question to answer because many teams are going away from “every down backs" and towards a shared backfield as everyone knows. So I tried to come up with a list of possible running backs who may accomplish this.

I am going to define a "every down back" as someone with 250+ carries or more. So some teams that run a lot like the Jets and Carolina may have multiple backs that meet this criteria for fantasy purposes. In 2002 there was 19 RBs that had 250+ carries. Last season there was just 9. Here was my first list of candidates:

1. Chris Johnson
2. Adrian Peterson
3. MJD
4. Frank Gore
5. Michael Turner
6. Steven Jackson
7. Cedric Benson
8. DeAngelo Williams
9. Ryan Grant
10. Shonn Green
11. Ryan Matthews

There are not many “every down backs” anymore with so many teams going with two to ease the load and not tax one back too much. For this reason if you don't get a top 5pick, I don’t think you should go after running backs early. Instead, you should concentrate on wide receivers and stock pile running backs later and one of them should be good if not more.

It is very hard to predict who will be every down backs because of injuries and other players who may take away from carries, even receivers, etc.

I am really big on Ryan Grant for where he is going. Again, he isn’t a top tier guy, and I wouldn’t reach for him, but he is every down back so I like him. If you don’t get a top six pick or so then I would go after a guy like Grant. Look at how many carries he has had the past two years
It is for this reason I don’t like Grant for years to come but for the next year or two. Then he will fall apart.

The Jetss like to run like crazy. Last year, as a team, they ran almost 700 times. Thomas Jones had 331 attempts last year and with Shonn green getting those carries he should be golden. Another guy to go after in late 1st round.

Both Carolina backs could get that many because they run so much. Especially DeAngelo Williams, but both should get carries. I don’t like Ryan Matthew for where he is going, but he will get the ball a lot because I think the rest of the team will not be good and be a disappointment.

From my initial list I would be worried about Turner, Benson, and to some degree Jackson staying healthy, but I don’t have that much to prove it on, just sort of a hunch. Jackson is coming off back surgery this offseason and he has had a lot of carries the past few years.

Here are the guys I think will get 250+ this season:
1. Chris Johnson
2. Adrian Peterson
3. MJD
4. Frank Gore
5. DeAngelo Williams
6. Ryan Grant
7. Shonn Green
8. Ryan Matthews

Out of those 8 guys it is hard to say who will really be every down backs. That is something very hard to predict. Personally I would only trust: Chris Johnson, AP, MJD, Gore, Grant, Greene, and Williams. I would be surprised if someone else emerges, but a guy like Mendenhall could, especially with Big Ben being out a few games.

What do you think?

Cubsfan4evr Fantasy Football Advice: Running backs

Now with the Game Of Inches fantasy draft done I can follow in the footsteps of "Sexy Rexy" and post my football advice which I am following in my drafts. I have worked hard to come up with my strategies and list of players to target that I think will have good seasons better than where they’re going, and of course a list of "sleepers" for deeper leagues.


In the first round I would only take a running back if you get a top 5 pick. If you have the opportunity to take Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Maurice Jones-Drew, and Frank Gore you should take them. If not then I would take a WR instead in the first round. My strategy is to take a top RB if I can, otherwise to take WR and QB early by stockpiling many average RB later.

This are my rankings for the top 30 RB:
1) Chris Johnson
2) Adrian Peterson
3) Ray Rice
4) Frank Gore
5) Maurice Jones-Drew
6) Michael Turner
7) Steven Jackson
8) Ryan Grant
9) DeAngelo Williams
10) Rashard Mendenhall
11) Jerome Harrison
12) Cedric Benson
13) Arian Foster
14) Ryan Matthews
15) Shonn Greene
16) Pierre Thomas
17) Jamaal Charles
18) Justin Forsett
19) Jonathan Stewart
20) Jahvid Best
21) Joseph Addai
22) LeSean McCoy
23) Ahmad Bradshaw
24) Felix Jones
25) Tim Hightower
26) Matt Forte
27) Beanie Wells
28) Michael Bush
29) Ricky Williams
30) Clinton Portis

As I said though I don't like many running backs for where they are being drafted. So here is a list of the actual running backs I would draft based on where they are going.

The list of runningbacks I would actually draft:
  • Chris Johnson
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Ray Rice
  • Frank Gore
  • Maurice Jones-Drew
  • Ryan Grant
  • Rashard Mendenhall
  • Jerome Harrison
  • Arian Foster
  • Justin Forsett
  • Jahvid Best
  • Ahmad Bradshaw
  • Tim Hightower
I wouldn't reach for these players more than a round early, if I didn't think they would come back to me. I would draft other positions, especially wide receivers early on and wait for these running backs that I am targeting. The reason is I think these running backs are good value for where there going. The other running backs I excluded from this list from my top 30 backs are still good and may have good seasons, but I think these players are better values for where there going. So if one of those other players fall a round or two then I would draft them if they are healthy.

Running backs I like later that I think could be great value out weight their ranking and be difference makers for a team are: Justin Forsett, Jahvid Best, Arian Foster (big on), and Michael Bush. I think some of these guys could develop into getting the lion share of the playing time. I think Bhest could be an injury risk, on a bad team, but if he does well he will get most of the carries. Forsett could also develop into getting enough carries a game. Arian Foster could easily emerge with the Texans being down on Slaton. Thus, these are guys I would target with later picks. I wouldn’t reach for them, but if they come to you, jump on them.

I am really big on Ryan Grant for where he is going. Again, he isn’t a top tier guy, and I wouldn’t reach for him, but he is every down back so I like him. If you don’t get a top six pick or so then I would go after a guy like Grant. Look at how many carries he has had the past two years:
It is for this reason I don’t like Grant for years to come but for the next year or two. Then he will fall apart. Depending on your league with the number of teams, if you have a flex, and the number of positions he would be a good number one back if you took a stud receiver with your first pick or a great 1-2 punch if he was your second pick. You can't go wrong with grant this year.

Revisiting The 2008 NFL Draft: Running Backs

The 1996 NFL draft is known for the great talent of wide receivers it produced, such as: Keyshawn Johnson, Marvin Harrison, and Terrell Owens. I'm a firm believer that the same way the '96 draft is known for receivers, the 2008 NFL draft should be known for running backs. Earlier I wrote about the five backs taken in the first round. But I'd like to briefly discuss a little but more about the running back class as a whole.

Currently, 12 of the 32 NFL teams prominently feature an '08 back (including the Dallas Cowboys that feature two: Felix Jones and Tashard Choice). The other backs taken that year were: Jamaal Charles, Justin Forsett, Matt Forte, Tim Hightower, Chris Johnson, Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Ray Rice, Steve Slaton, Kevin Smith, and Jonathan Stewart.

Currently, two of the best four runnings backs were drafted in 2008: Should-have-been-2009-MVP Tennessee's Chris Johnson and Baltimore's Ray Rice. The worst RB in this class in Run DMC (McFadden)- which is ironic because he was the first guy taken off of the board.

One thing of note that I noticed among this class is that it's full of guys who not only can run very well (as any NFL RB should be able to do), but also are pretty good pass catchers. The best pass catching RB in the NFL right now is my boy Ray Rice, but guys like Johnson, Forte, and Slaton are also pretty good at it as well.

Here's how I would rank these backs from this class
1. Chris Johnson (Titans)
2. Ray Rice (Ravens)
3. Jamaal Charles (Chiefs)
4. Jonathan Stewart (Panthers)
5. Rashard Mendenhall (Steelers)
6. Felix Jones (Cowboys)
7. Matt Forte (Bears)
8. Steve Slaton (Texans)
9. Justin Forsett (Seahawks)
10. Kevin Smith (Lions)
11. Tim Hightower (Cardinals)
12. Tashard Choice (Cowboys)
13. Darren McFadden (Raiders)

Are the Bears A Running Team?

Lovie Smith was hired by the Chicago Bears in 2004. It is hard to beleoieve that he has already been here for six years. Since Lovie Smith has been head coach of the Chicago Bears he has said were going to be a running team. So I decided to look at how many Yards the Bears have rushed for each year since he has took over and see how they have ranked overall. The Bears still have two more games left for this 2009 season, but I think the sample size is large enough.

Year Yards Ranking
2009 1237 30th
2008 1673 24th
2007 1330 30th
2006 1918 15th
2005 2099 8th
2004 1624 25th

As you see the only years where the Bears have been a running team under Lovie was the 2005 season. All of the other years they have ranked near the bottom in running the football. The Bears were terrible rushing in 2004, Lovie's first season in Chicago. Then they did run in 2005 and they made it to a NFC divisional game. They continued to get worse in 2006 but they made it to the super bowl. After the super bowl appearance they got really bad and have been ranked among the bottom since. So the Bears have only been a running team for two years under Lovie Smith. So if he still says were a running team, then we need to get a coach who doesn’t live under a rock. The Bears could be a good competitive team if they did run the football like they did in 2005 and 2006, but they don't.

Chris Johnson Greatest Season Ever?


There are many ways to judge the greatness of a running backs season. You can look at TDs, yards, carries, averages, or most importantly the offensive lines in front of the back. I like the traditional stats to judge running backs, total yards from scrimmage. Yards are yards, regardless how they are attained, and that is what I like to look at.

The greatest single season total yards from scrimmage seasons belong to Marshall Faulk(2429) in 1999, Tiki Barber(2390) in 2005, and LaDainian Tomlinson(2370) in 2003. Other great seasons in recent memory belong to Jamal Lewis, Larry Johnson, Priest Holmes, and Shawn Alexander.

No matter what anyone says, Chris Johnson is the MVP this season. No one has had more impact on his teams performance this season than Johnson. With 3 games left in the season, he's already eclipsed the 2000 yards from scrimmage mark. At 2017 yards, he is on pace to finish with 2482 yards setting the all time record. You add 13 touchdowns and 3 TD runs above 85 yards and you have your league MVP. As I mentioned earlier, no running back in the SB era has more than two 85 yard runs in their career, let alone a single season.

Analyzing the 2008 First Round RB Class

The NFL is full of some young great RBs. In fact, most of the RBs that are starting now or is a prominent back up in this current 2 RB league. in the NFL were drafted in 2008. The list includes: Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Ray Rice, Kevin Smith, Jamaal Charles, Steve Slaton, Tashard Choice, Tim Hightower, and Justin Forsett. An overall pretty impressive list, no?

2008 is looking like a pretty damn good year to draft a RB and I wish I had the time to analyze all these players, but the first round is a pretty good place to start. Now obviously the maximum amount of games these guys have had is only 25, so the sample size is not the greatest, but it's pretty interesting which team had the foresight to draft well.

#4 Overall: Run DMC Darren McFadden
Most of Run DMC's young career has been riddled by injury starting in only 5 games and playing in only 18. In his rookie year, he had a fine 4.4 YPC but only averaging about 8.5 carries per game. This year, however, he is averaging a measly 3.1 YPC with a little over 10 carries per game. He averages .277 TDs per game

In his freshman year, he had a negative DYAR and DVOA (which is really bad and he was really inefficient). He's not much better this year, in fact (obviously as the "normal" stats show) he's regressed.

However, I can't say that McFadden is totally to blame, the Oakland offensive line has been awful in run blocking ranking 26th last year and 20th this year.

#13 Overall: Jonathan Stewart
Unfortunately for Stewart he plays with last year should-have-been MVP DeAngelo Williams and who is having another monster year this year. So while Stewart has never started, he has played in all 25 games for the Panthers. While he only averages a career 11.8 carries per game, he does great things with those carries. Last year he averaged 4.5 YPC and this year he's raised that this year to 4.8. He is also a TD machine getting 10 last year and 6 this year. Stewart averages .64 TD's per game.

Clearly, Stewart had been very efficient ranking 6th of all RBs last year in DYAR and 12th in DVOA. This year, he ranks 17th in both.

However, when two RBs on a team do well, the most likely answer for this is the offensive line and not the RB itself. Last year, Carolina had the 8th best run blocking line and this year they rank 13th. So while Stewart is very good and durable, I'm sure a lot of his success is due the line and maybe not him.

#22 Overall: Felix Jones
After Dallas let go of Julius Jones, they decided to draft another Jones, Run DMC's back up in college. In Jones' first few games, he looked amazing. But injuries and carries has hindered him since. He's only started in 13 games so far with a career 74 attempts, 4 TDs, and a whopping 7.7 YPC. However, this YPC is probably due more to the limited carries he's had and will probably diminish with more and consistent workload. However, even for this analysis, I'd say it's just too small of a sample size to rally really determine how good Jones can be/ is. But it doesn't look promising to draft a first rounder who is constantly getting injured.

#23 Overall: Rashard Mendenhall
Again, we have a sample size problem because Mendenhall was injured all of his rookie, but he looks good this year. He has successfully stolen the job away from Willie Parker and is now a top back in this league. This year, with a consistent workload, he's averaging 5.4 YPC and 4 rushing TDs. He's averaging .31 TD's per game.

This year Mendenhall ranks 13th in DYAR and 14th in DVOA. The Steelers O-line is 11th in the league in blocking. But I give a but more credit to Mendenhall here than to Stewart because Willie Parker didn't do shit with the same O-line, whereas Stewart is playing with another back who is having success.

#24 Overall: Chris Johnson
This year, Johnson is first among all RBs in fantasy football, first in rushing yards, 4th in rushing TDs, 2nd in DVOA, 4th in DYAR, and is on his way to a second pro bowl in only two years. Yeah, mo fo is good. He had a 4.9 YPC last year and he raised that to 6.4 this year. He has 17 career rushing TDs and 2 career receiving TDs. He averages .79 TDs per game.

What really bolsters the case for Johnson's talent is that the Tennessee run blocking have been below average ranking 15th last year and 26th this year. Again, mo fo is just amazing.

Clearly draft position has meant nothing to how guys have performed because I would rank:
1) Chris Johnson
2) Jonathan Stewart
3) Rashard Mendenhall
4) Felix Jones
5) RUN DMC

Clearly you make easy arguments that guys like Forte, Kevin Smith, Slaton, Hightower, and Rice should be included in this discussion of who's the best RB to come out of this draft class. In fact, it also goes to show you that while as good as these five guys have been, you shouldn't draft a RB in the first round because you can always find just as good, if not better talent, in later rounds. I think how people view the 1996 draft for wide outs, people will view the 2008 draft for RBs.

Where Would You Draft A RB?

With the NFL draft a little over a week away, NFL Live's Tim Hasselbeck says he would never draft a RB in the first round. This reminded me of a conversation The Bright One and I had a while back during the 2008 football season- one in which a good friend of his shared the same exact sentiment. Obviously if you can find a player like Walter Peyton or even Adrian Peterson, you snatch him up as quickly as possible. But if you're a RB behind an AP-like player in the draft, there's not a whole lot of difference between the #2 RB and say the #10 RB. Mainly because RB rely so heavily on their offense line. So I wanted to look at two questions in this post: 1) Should a team ever draft a RB before the 2nd round? and 2) How much of a RBs stats are based off the offensive line and how much is based of a RB's talent?

I'd like to start with the second question first: is stats due to the offensive line or the RB? Last year, according to footballoutsiders.com, the top five rushing O-lines were: Denver, New England, New York Giants, New York Jets, and Washington Redskins. And according to RB stats, the top five RBs were: DeAngelo Williams, Brandon Jacobs, Clinton Portis, Derrick Ward, and Thomas Jones. There's actually not a whole lot of discrepancy here. Both Ward and Jacobs are Giants RB. It's no surprise that the Giants who have 3rd best rushing line was able to produce two players in the top five. Thomas Jones made his first pro bowl last year but he also had the 4th best rushing line in front of him. Portis was the #2 overall back in front of the 5th best rushing line. And as for the best RB last year and who I called the MVP DeAngelo Williams, his rushing O-line was 7th.

Well, you might ask, "how come there is no Patriot or Broncos RB on that list?" Well that's easy, both teams used 4 or more RBs so obviously running stats for one individual player is going to be low. Denver went through at least 8 RBs last year, mainly due to injury, and the Pats just rotated in guys like Sammy Morris (5th in DVOA), Kevin Faulk, LaMont Jordan, and Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis (the latter three had less than 100 carries each so they do not qualify for stats like the other top RBs mentioned do. However, for guys who had less than 100 carries: Faulk is #1, Jordan is #5, and Ellis is #17. And for Denver, because they also didn't really have guys who had significant carries: Peyton Hillis was #3, Michael Pittman was #7 and Tatum Bell was #11)

But let's see if this type of thing also hold true year after year. In 2007 the top RBs were (and their subsequent teams rushing O-line ranking): Brian Westbrook (PHI 4th), LT (SD 24th), Marion Barber (DAL 14th), AP (MIN 15th), Jospeh Addai (IND 5th). In 2006: LT (SD 1st), Brian Westbrook (PHI 3rd), Tiki Barber (NYG 4th), Joseph Addai (IND 5th), Larry Johnson (KC, 17th). In 2005: Larry Johnson (KC 3rd), Sean Alexander (SEA 7th), Edge (IND 1st), Tiki Barber (NYG 10th), Rudi Johnson (CIN 4th). In 2004: Curtis Martin (NYJ 2nd), Corey Dillon (NE 5th), Edge (IND 1st), Priest Holmes (KC 3rd), Sean Alexander (SEA 9th).

As you can see, if a RB is top five the league, it tends to be that his rushing offense line tends to also be top five, if not top 10. Especially if the RB is on teams like the Colts or the Jets, the RB seem to do well because of the offensive line. The one outlier seems to be in 2007. LT, Barber, and AP has exceptional years yet their rushing lines were 14th or lower. But I think these are clearly examples of sometimes a RB is good no matter the O-line. LT is one of the games great players (although his career setting year in '06 is obviously more the O-line than him, but still, I mean the guys just amazing); as mentioned at the top of the article, Peterson could end his career, assuming health, as being on Walter Peyton's level; and Marion Barber's running style will help him get yards no matter the O-line (however this does cause him to be more of an injury risk). But overall, RBs that have great years is mainly due to the line and not necessarily due to the RB's talent.

But this is not a perfect correlation either. Just because a RB is the best does not necessarily mean his rushing offensive line is the best and just because a player plays for the best rushing offensive line, does not mean he will be the best RB. This means that a RBs talent does play a factor into his own stats, but in reality that factor is a lot smaller than the vast majority of people think.

So now onto the second question, should a team ever draft a RB in the 2nd round or lower? Well I think to help answer this question, we can look at fantasy football. I'm going to list the top RBs according to ESPN's fantasy football (yes I realize it's fantasy but if a RB is good in fantasy play, then they actually will be very good in reality play. Fantasy football has a better correlation than baseball does) and then see what round that player was drafted in:

1) Adrian Peterson- 1st
2) Matt Forte- 2nd
3) Michael Turner- 5th
4) Maurice Jones-Drew- 2nd
5) DeAngelo Williams- 1st
6) Chris Johnson- 2nd
7) Steven Jackson- 1st
8) Brian Westbrook- 3rd
9) Frank Gore- 3rd
10) Marion Barber- 4th
11) Steve Slaton- 2nd
12) Clinton Portis- 2nd
13) LaDainain (LT) Tomlinson- 1st
14) Brandon Jacobs- 4th
15) Joseph Addai- 1st
16) Kevin Smith- 3rd
17) Ronnie Brown- 1st
18) Marshawn Lynch- 1st
19) Derrick Ward- 7th
20) Thomas Jones- 7th

Out of the top 20, 7 were drafted in the first round, 5 in the second, 3 in the third, and 5 in rounds 4-7. This may seem like it actually is worth it to take a RB in the first round but 65% of the top 20 were NOT first round picks. AP and LT are players like the ones I mentioned earlier, backs that will be amazing no matter the O-line. The one first rounder that sticks out to me is Joseph Addai. The Colts have had one of the best rushing offensive lines throughout the past five+ years, that they probably could have taken a RB in the later rounds and still have had the production that Addai has had. Forte, K. Smith, Slaton, Jones-Drew and C. Johnson are the younger ones on this list, some of the best on this list, and all were taken in the 2nd or 3rd round. But the one thing on this list that sticks out to me, is that there is not a clump or group of the same round draftees in one place. The #3 RB is a fifth rounder and the #18 RB is a first rounder.

So, now let's go back to the original question: should a team ever draft a RB is the first round? Well, sometimes, but mainly no. It's not necessarily a waste to do so but you can always get value in a later round. But I think something else to consider is health. Yes, you clearly need a good Line, but if you have a player that has shown to get constantly injured or deals with injuries badly (like many "experts" are telling me about Ohio State RB Chris "Beanie" Wells), its probably not the best idea to draft that player in a higher round (you hear that New Orleans?). So if you think there's a handful of backs that are just as good as some projected first rounders, but are injury risks, then it's probably a good thing to take a RB is the first round. And sometimes when you're not good/ too stupid to realize your teams O-line sucks or is just mediocre (Buffalo Bills), it may be a good idea to take a RB in the first round (Marshawn Lynch). But because the line sucks the RB may not achieve top-tier like he could, but he's still worth a first round pick.

But overall, the line still is more important than the RB itself. So if I were a GM, I would concentrate more on the line than the RB. That way, in a future draft, I can draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, not waste a first round pick, and still have a lot of production out of the RB position.